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An Interview With Shae Pepper – Schools Project Coordinator In The UK

May 15, 2013 By Shae Pepper Leave a Comment

Shae Pepper Schools Work
Shae when she was working in a school in Thailand

As part of our series about different types of youth work, this week we have an interview with Shae Pepper who, in addition to being a Prevention Training Specialist and Girl Scout Troop Leader, used to do schools work in the UK.

1. What type of youth work did you do?

I was a Schools Project Coordinator in the UK. I also did schools work in Thailand and currently do prevention work in schools in the US.

2. What did you do in an average week?

I led small groups of students in year 9 and year 10. The program was based on sessions such as life skills, local volunteering, global charity fundraising, a media project and a one week residential (retreat). The youth worked towards a Youth Achievement Bronze Award throughout the program.

I worked with a different group each day for six hours; we picked them up from school, dropped them back off at the end of the day and served them lunch.

I also did one-to-one mentoring on Fridays and had an administrative day on Mondays.

3. How long were you a schools worker?

I did that specific role for 2 & 1/2 years in the UK. I also work in schools now as part of my role as a Prevention Specialist.

4. What other types of youth work have you done previously?

Youth participation programs, social-inclusion/social-enterprise programs, faith-based youth ministry, youth re-entry program design, Girl Scout troop leadership, prevention services and project-based education programs.

5. What age range did you work with?

I worked with youth who were between the ages of 11-14, my preferred age group.

6. What was unique about being a Schools Project Coordinator?

We were able to work with the youth about school issues and social skills in partnership with the school, and yet the youth were released from school into our care one full day a week for the entire school year.

7. What were some of the good things about schools work?

I’m passionate about youth finishing school – I myself LOVE school and learning – so it’s great to work in an environment that fosters (or should) a love of learning. One of the reasons I’m not a teacher though is that I love informal education rather than formal teaching methodology. Therefore, youth work in a school fits nicely into both parts of me that want to teach and educate while still maintaining a less formal relationship with youth.

As a morning person, I also loved the 6am – 3pm schedule.

8. What were some of the challenges of it?

The main challenge was proving its worth so that youth could continue to be released for groups. Over the years, it got harder and harder to get youth released for a full school day into our care, especially when there was such a focus on academics. The program really had to show high retention and achievement rates.

9. Why were you passionate about schools work?

I love schools work – even now. As I said before, it works well with the type of youth worker that I am. I love to teach and I love to be informal in my relationships with young people. Being flexible on my own curriculum also has the advantage of being able to stop and work through issues with youth that might otherwise have to be dealt with punitively in a classroom setting.

Even though all youth aren’t college-bound, a love of learning is important to instill, even if it’s not in academic pursuits. It will create innovative and motivated youth and I love that schools work has the potential to bring a joy of learning new things to the school environment.

10. What would you recommend for someone wanting to get into schools work?

Remember that there are all different kinds of schools work out there – do your research and volunteer first. Then you can know if teaching, careers guidance, youth work, prevention services, graduation coaching, classroom assistant, etc. is right for you.

11. Is there any special training or qualifications required?

There wasn’t in the role I had, but you should check with the organizations and agencies in your area doing schools work to find out more.

About Shae:

Shae Pepper has been a Professional Youth Worker for eight years and a Volunteer Youth Worker for nine years. She has a Master’s in Youth Work and Community Development from DeMontfort University in Leicester, England. Shae has provided training for youth workers in England, the USA and Rwanda and has worked with young people aged 8-21 in England, Rwanda, the USA and Thailand.

Please feel free to use the comments below if you have any questions about Schools Work. If you also do Schools Work, we’d love to hear about your experiences in the comments too.

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Youth Work In Schools In The UK – Guest Post (part 3)

March 30, 2012 By Stephen Pepper Leave a Comment

Today is the third and final part of Mince’s guest post about youth work in schools in the UK. Check out the first post here and the second post here.

Youth Work in Schools in The UK – Part 3

Now that you’ve been warned of the most common pitfalls, here are some top tips for doing youth work in schools:

  1. DON’T DO IT. (haha just kidding, but really, um… yeh)
  2. Find out as much as you can about the school beforehand. Knowledge is power!
  3. Prep 3 or 4 different lessons, because then you can be a bit flexible. Maybe bring up to 8 short activities, and then use the 3 that the group seems most likely to respond to. Mix it up.
  4. Get a good posh coat and wear it into the school. This will make teachers think you are a professional. Then take it off and show off your rockin’ jeans, hoodie and canvas shoes.
  5. Stay well fed and hydrated. It’s really embarrassing to pass out in a class. On that note, try to sleep too, you know, the night before you go. And troubleshoot all your logistical problems the day before, so you can focus. You need to focus!
  6. Get the teacher on your side. Praise the teacher, praise their class to them. They like that. Praise their amazing teacher voice. Teachers and youth workers can be suspicious of each other, but they shouldn’t be. We’re all working for the same thing, just in different ways.
  7. Bring a short video. Use the time that it’s on to rebuild your shattered self-esteem, breathe and meditate.
  8. Split them into groups. Be mean; don’t let them be in groups with their friends.
  9. Praise and reward the class.
  10. Praise and reward yourself! You rock!! It’s really, really hard to go in and teach even if you are a teacher, but you aren’t, and you just successfully blagged it for a whole lesson. Amazing. Give yourself a star-shaped sticker and a big glass/cup/bowl of whatever your poison is!

GOOD LUCK!!

 

Youth work in schoolsMince is a youth worker in England who doesn’t smoke but does have a lovely posh coat.

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Youth Work In Schools In The UK – Guest Post (part 2)

March 23, 2012 By Stephen Pepper Leave a Comment

Today is the second part of Mince’s guest post about youth work in schools in the UK. Check out the first part here and come back next week for the third and final installment.

Youth work in schools
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Youth Work in Schools in the UK – Part 2

There are two reasons that teacher training is so intensive: one is that, as you already know, the good and proper education of children and young people is what any civilisation needs in order to survive and grow; the other is that it’s really, really easy to screw it up.

Here are some problems or non-problems you get in schools:

You’ve got a captive audience

Youth work is a lot like teaching, but the difference is that one of the founding principles of youth work is voluntary participation. As in, if they’re not interested in your session, they don’t come to it. They have the power to choose if they want to engage or not! This means you’ve got a very powerful audience, so you better do something good.

But also, if you can’t, then the worst case is that your group just wanders off. Not so in a school… If you die on your feet, you gotta stand there looking the fool till the bell rings. Better make some backup plans quick time!

Your group already has a dynamic

For all the training you might have received on making and controlling group dynamics in youth clubs, at a school the class already did that years ago; they have quite literally grown up together. It’s a toxic environment, a real mixed bag. But yes, you have this group of people who see each other every single day, and know more about each other than you probably know about yourself. As a result, your group discussions might feel a little strained.

The teacher is there

As a non-teacher, this can only be a good thing… right? Wrong! Teachers are all powerful. They can make your youth work session a success or a massive failure. If they look interested, if they join in, if they remind those kids at the back to pay attention, and generally point out how great you are, then success is so much more likely than if they come in, sit at the back, get out their iPhone to play Angry Birds, and chuck paper planes at you. It’s horrible to have to say this, but some teachers do not give a hoot about your session or about their class’s behaviour or learning. (In that case, who knows why they are there because there are much easier ways to make £25k, but that’s another story…)

Every school is different

Great! Don’t we just love being kept on our toes? After all, it would get pretty boring if they were all the same? But be warned, you WILL break a rule, even if it’s just a banned word or calling a teacher by the wrong name, or whatever. Chill. Take it easy. How were you to know? School life involves a million more rules (and the breaking of a million more rules) than youth work, so it’s pretty routine. Phew.

 

Youth work in schoolsMince is a youth worker in the UK with a healthy fear of schools.

 

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Youth Work In Schools In The UK – Guest Post (part 1)

March 16, 2012 By Stephen Pepper 2 Comments

Today we’ve got another great guest post from Mince – you can also check out her previous post about the different types of youth worker. Today’s post is about youth work in schools in the UK – come back for the second and third installments over the next couple of weeks.

Youth work in schools
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Youth Work in Schools in the UK – Part 1

If you wanted to be a teacher in the UK, you could complete NVQ levels 2 and 3 in Childcare and Education. That will lead you into either playgroups or schools work.

Alternatively, you could go to University, learn your subject inside-out (for a large fee), and then take either one or two years to do your PGCE.

If you want to specialise then you can do extra courses; for example to work with SEN groups (Special Educational Needs), children with other specific learning difficulties, tutor support, and so forth. You’d do some time in a school where you’d learn all the useful stuff like timekeeping in sessions, school rules, school cultures, uniforms, class management, teacher dress code, where the coffee is, whether you get called ‘miss’ or not, where to smoke, who the disruptive kids are, and all the ‘office politics’ you get in a school.

Youth workers, by comparison, mainly learn their trade on the job – as volunteers, as sessional workers, and eventually as underpaid, awkwardly contracted ‘staff’. Some choose to do an NVQ or a degree, or even an MA – youth work is routinely a graduate profession these days. But the funding, the infrastructure and the support are savagely lacking, and in a time of cuts, austerity, and ‘difficult decisions’, that isn’t going to get any better anytime soon. *sigh*

Now, there’s a reason you’re a youth worker and not a teacher, and often the reasons include:

  • You like young people
  • You hate schools, or
  • You just really like to challenge yourself

Clearly the easier, better-paid and more widely respected career route is teaching. Instead, as a youth worker you’ll fight your whole career to be taken even half as seriously as a teacher. You’ll then spend every family gathering, meeting or party where you accidentally mention your job telling people that you do not just ‘play pool all night’, or ‘entertain teenagers’, or corrupt the fragile minds of the innocent.

Lots of youth workers hate schools for their one-size-fits-all approach. Youth workers will hear all the horror stories from young people about cruel and unreasonable teachers, including bullying issues and ego-shattering comments doled out to students. But we only hear one side of the story; teachers are also overworked, underpaid, undermined and insulted daily by young people, by OFSTED, by ESTYN and by local authorities.

So as a youth worker, at some point, you may end up having to go into a school. Schools are unfeasibly nervous about teaching ‘life skills’ or ‘PSHE’ or ‘SRE’ or whatever they call it this term. That’s fair enough, and anyway, better to have it taught by someone who stays up to speed with this stuff for a living than a Science or English teacher who drew the short straw. A good school will usually call in the experts – that means charities, youth clubs, health workers and other not-for-profit peeps with a message for the youth. *ring ring* oh, it’s for you!!

 

Mince is a youth worker in England and is therefore officially an endangered species.

 

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