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An Interview With Benjamin Kerns – A Senior High Youth Pastor

January 30, 2013 By Stephen Pepper Leave a Comment

Benjamin KernsFor the latest installment in our series about different types of youth work, we have an interview with Benjamin Kerns who’s a youth pastor in the US.

1. What type of youth work do you do?

I’m an associate pastor on staff at Marin Covenant Church. I oversee children’s ministry and a junior high director. I plan and implement all parts of our senior high ministry, from program planning and budgeting, to curriculum, small group questions, games, and mixers. Our ministry is pretty balanced in our approach to quality programming and relational connection.

2. What do you do in an average week?

On an average week I try not to work more than 45 hours. Things always come up, retreats always seem to happen and if I’m not careful my job will take over my life. In those 45 hours, I try to spend no more than 50% of that time in the office. That includes prep, study, research, admin and meetings. The other 50% is contact work with my students and leaders.

3. How long have you been doing this type of youth work?

I’ve been in vocational youth ministry for 16 years.

4. What other types of youth work have you done previously?

I cut my youth ministry teeth in camping ministry. I spent 4 summers working at a Christian camp in Northern California.

5. What age range do you work with?

I now work with birth through to 50 year olds. I specifically oversee our children and student ministry. But as I have gotten older, my ministry to parents has increased and is now a vital part of my ministry.

6. What’s unique about your particular type of youth work?

The truth is that there is nothing unique about the youth work I do. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting with, watching, and coaching quite a few fellow youth workers and I am convinced that there is nothing new under the sun.

The unique way that God has formed me with my unique skill set and passions means that some of what we do and how we do it are nuanced, but that is it. Fundamentally youth work is youth work. (Unless God has called you to a totally outside the box sort of ministry, which he hasn’t in my case.)

7. What are some of the good things about senior high youth ministry?

The best thing about it is that I get the pleasure to walk through the most chaotic season in someone’s life and help them wrestle with their blossoming identity and love them as they sort out where faith in Jesus might fit.

8. What are some of the challenges of it?

Kids are fickle and selfish. Over 15 years, I can count on two hands the number of students that have come back and said thank you or shared how those years impacted them. They are hot and cold with faith and with you. If you find your worth or identity in their approval, then you’re in big trouble 🙂

9. Why are you passionate about senior high youth ministry?

Student ministry is so amazing because they’re almost adults. They are beginning to think deeply about life and theology and attempting to put it all into practice. They know they are not fully formed and are open for God to show up and mess with them.

Unfortunately, many adults have gone as far as they are comfortable in the process of sanctification and then choose churches that fit that spot. Students haven’t settled yet and are open for transformation and development.

10. What would you recommend for someone wanting to get into youth ministry?

Volunteer first. Try out a year long internship next. And if you have positive experiences and receive positive feedback and affirmation of your gifts and skills, then it’s time to begin to pursue what a career in this might look like.

When you volunteer and are an intern then you should have people around you to help you discern this; being open to their wisdom and discernment is the most important thing.

11. Is there any special training or qualifications required?

There are no special qualifications or special training required. Every church has a different set of standards. I know great youth workers who don’t have a high school diploma to those with Doctorates in ministry. What it takes is a calling and solid mentors.

Be humble and teachable, read like crazy, and invite feedback. It is the best job in the entire world if you are called to it, and the most devastating if you are not. Good luck in your discernment.

12. Is there anything else you’d like to share?

I love working with fellow youth workers to sharpen each other so that we can be as effective as possible to reach this next generation for Jesus. I have spent the last 7 years of my professional life to walk alongside, coach, and train other youth workers.

If you’re in a pinch or need an outside voice, please feel free to contact me anytime. All my contact info is on my blog Average Youth Ministry. May God bless you and be gracious to you as you work out your calling!

About Benjamin:

After a career ending knee injury, I left competitive curling and have dedicated the last 15 years of my life to loving students. I enjoy partnering with other youth workers to help students come to know and follow Jesus. I am a network facilitator for the pacific southwest for the Evangelical Covenant Church and have been a resource for other youth workers for the past 7 years.

I still bring pizza to any and every youth gathering. And now have to run 20 miles a week to burn off the pizza weight in order to keep the love alive with my wife. I love my kids, baseball, writing, and my iPhone, and don’t understand Twitter. For the past 7 years I have served at Marin Covenant Church as the Pastor to Children and Students. You can follow my struggling Twitter account at @averageym.

Please feel free to use the comments below if you have any questions about senior high youth ministry. If you’re a senior high youth pastor, we’d love to hear about your experiences in the comments as well.

If you work in a different youth work field we’d love to interview you for this series, so please get in touch!

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An Interview With Gemma Dunning – An LGBT Youth Worker In The UK

January 23, 2013 By Stephen Pepper Leave a Comment

Working with LGBT youthFor the next part in our series about different types of youth work, we have an interview with Gemma Dunning who is currently working with LGBT youth in the UK.

1. What type of youth work do you do?

I am a Youth Worker in Charge for a UK based charity that supports young people under 25 years old who identify as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender (LGBT) or those who are asking questions about sexuality and gender identity.

We are based on the South Coast of the UK and host different groups across the county as well as providing one to one support and educational training and support to local services such as schools and colleges.

2. What do you do in an average week?

The project aims to empower young people and raise their levels of participation, so my role is very much as a group facilitator. The young people dictate the shape and tone of the different groups and the activities we undertake, with each group having a different flavour.

This leaves me with the day to day admin and communication, as well as the supervision of volunteers and setting up of the space. The groups meet in the evening and much of my role involves hosting that night’s event, spending time with young people, providing pastoral care, engaging them in activities and undertaking harm minimisation work.

No two weeks are ever the same! Just a few weeks ago, our young people were involved in the delivery of a diversity conference attended by 14 different schools and a number of different local agencies. They were integral in planning the themes, hosting the day, delivering training workshops and engaging with other local young people to celebrate diversity. We are also already working on plans to make a real impact at our local Gay Pride event this coming summer.

3. How long have you been working with LGBT youth?

A year ago I ‘retired’ from full time Church based youth ministry due to ill health and made a decision to engage with a pre-existing LGBT charity in order to challenge myself and continue my professional development. I have always found myself in positions of pastorally supporting LGBT young people within the church and wanted to look at this issue with a new perspective.

4. What other types of youth work have you done previously?

Prior to this I was a full time Church based youth worker with the Salvation Army in the UK. This role saw me engaging with a variety of community based youth programmes as well as working as a Secondary (11 – 18 years old) School Chaplain and delivering a creative alternative education programme.

5. What age range do you work with?

The project works with young people under 25, however most of the young people we support are 14 – 21 years old.

6. What’s unique about working with LGBT youth?

It’s a safe space for young people to be open about who they are and how they are feeling without being judged. It can be hard for LGBT young people to engage with mainstream youth projects for fear of rejection and bullying. Despite the perception that society is now a tolerant and accepting place, the reality in the UK is that 96% of gay young people hear homophobic remarks at school, making the group meetings we create a safe haven for many vulnerable young people.

As for the content, people often expect us to only undertake LGBT activities. However, as with mainstream youth projects we get involved in art, games, informal education, trips, etc. but we are specific about our intentions & the membership criteria. We engage the young people in the wider LGBT community and provide a bridging service to them accessing other specific professional services.

7. What are some of the good things about LGBT youth work?

It’s a privilege to see young people grow in their sense of self worth and identity – to be part of the journey with young people discovering who they are is a complete gift. We grab hold of fun and utilise every opportunity we can to celebrate life and the successes of the young people. The ability to throw a good, safe, party is an essential job requirement!

8. What are some of the challenges of it?

Many of our young people face so many daily obstacles, it means life for them can seem like an unending losing battle. For many young people, the process of coming out is a daily battle rather than a one-off, where they have to explain themselves and face daily discrimination.

As a youth worker, it can be hard to see young people consistently hurting at the hand of others and unfortunately some of the young people attempt, and succeed, in suicide.

9. Why are you passionate about working with LGBT youth?

The statistics surrounding suicide and depression in LGBT teens are disturbing. Here in the UK, a transgender young person is 170 times more likely to attempt suicide than any other British Citizen, with 96% of students experiencing homophobic language at school where their attendance is required for 14 years.

I believe youth workers have the power to transform this – they can have a positive effect supporting young people, educating the wider community and being a positive role model. We can demonstrate what loving and caring well for others really looks like and this will impact the lives of real young people.

10. What would you recommend for someone wanting to get into this type of youth work?

Find a local project already undertaking work with LGBT youth and start volunteering. Seek every learning opportunity and be prepared to listen to the stories of others.

11. Is there any special training or qualifications required?

Be the best general youth worker you can be and then top that up with as many local professional training courses as possible! I am currently undertaking an MA in youth work with a JNC qualification, but I also have professional training in subjects such as Sexual Health, HIV/AIDS, Transgender Awareness, Challenging Difficult Behaviour, etc.

12. Is there anything else you’d like to share?

All youth workers will engage with LGBT or Questioning young people at some stage on their youth work journey. However, often we are unprepared and unaware of the needs of young people, so why not get ahead of the game!

Even if it isn’t a majority issue in your youth work now, seek out good informative resources, undertake a professional training day and ask your employer those policy questions on how your organisation supports LGBT young people. You have the power to change the lives of young people in your community, so be the change you want to see.

Gemma Dunning has been a Professional Youth & Community worker for 12 years across a wide range of settings. She has a BA in Applied Theology with Family & Community specialism and is currently at the dissertation writing stage of a Master’s in Applied Theology with Youth and Community specialism with Gloucester University, in England. Gemma has provided training for youth workers in England and the USA and is passionate about inclusion and diversity.

You can follow her on Twitter at @gemmadunning.

Please feel free to use the comments below if you have any questions about working with LGBT youth. If you’re also a youth worker with LGBT young people, we’d love to hear about your experiences in the comments too.

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An Interview With Shae Pepper – A Prevention Training Specialist

January 16, 2013 By Shae Pepper Leave a Comment

Shae Pepper - Prevention ServicesTo kick off our series on different types of youth work, we have an interview with a Prevention Services youth worker – me!

1. What type of youth work do you do?

I have a full-time position as a substance abuse and mental health Prevention Training Specialist with the local government.

2. What do you do in an average week?

I work in small group and large group settings, delivering evidence-based social and emotional education programs that have a focus on preventing access to, use and misuse of medications, illicit substances, gateway drugs and other potentially illegal and harmful substances.

I also support and chair a local coalition of community and agency partners that focus on helping the youth in our city to stay away from drugs, alcohol and tobacco.

3. How long have you been doing prevention services?

Officially, I have been doing this specific role for seven months, although I’ve been doing what would be considered prevention services and social inclusion services for over eight years.

4. What other types of youth work have you done previously?

School-inclusion programs, youth participation programs, social-inclusion/social-enterprise programs, faith-based youth ministry, youth re-entry program design, Girl Scout troop leadership and project-based education programs.

5. What age range do you work with?

I work with children and youth who are between the ages of 4 and 17., although my preference is 11-14’s.

6. What’s unique about your particular type of youth work?

We focus solely on helping prevent the use of drugs, alcohol and tobacco although recently it has begun to include bullying, suicide and obesity prevention.

7. What are some of the good things about prevention services?

Using evidence-based curriculum that is pre-designed and packaged with all its supplies, meaning it’s much easier to do many groups with less preparation time.

8. What are some of the challenges of it?

It’s hard to prove something that never exists. Theoretically, yearly lower drug use numbers among young people proves that prevention works, but with many factors – both protective and risk – it’s hard to prove a direct link to funders and potential partners.

It can also be challenging filling up a work day from 9-5 if you are unable to deliver programs in the schools, because it restricts the amount of face-to-face youth work you can do.

9. Why are you passionate about this type of youth work?

I’ll be honest, this isn’t the work I’m most passionate about, but I’ve found things I appreciate about this type of work. It starts from a positive position and helps with social and emotional skills such as goal setting and decision making, not just ‘don’t do drugs.’

10. What would you recommend for someone wanting to get into this type of youth work?

It’s great if you enjoy working with children and youth. A lot of the young people I work with are in elementary and middle school, so we can help them avoid drugs altogether before they reach the temptations of high school.

Talk to your local Community Service Board or Behavioral Healthcare Service in your city or county if you live in the US, as that is where the prevention department is often based from.

11. Is there any special training or qualifications required?

You can be a Prevention Training Specialist without any special training or qualifications, although your employer may want you to pursue a Certified Prevention Specialist qualification. In my state, this requires 100 hours of prevention-related training and 2000 hours of prevention services delivered to qualify.

12. Is there anything else you’d like to share?

Prevention work can be really rewarding, especially when what you’ve taught is remembered by the children and youth. It’s worth noting that the face of prevention is starting to change, with more focus on environmental strategies rather than programs and events.

This is because they’re more cost effective and provide ongoing ‘sticks and carrots’ for people to help them avoid substance use/abuse, such as non-smoking areas in public places and work places or a push for tighter underage drinking laws in a locality.

Shae Pepper has been a Professional Youth Worker for seven years and a Volunteer Youth Worker for eight years. She has a Master’s in Youth Work and Community Development from DeMontfort University in Leicester, England. Shae has provided training for youth workers in England, the USA and Rwanda and has worked with young people aged 8-21 in England, Rwanda, the USA and Thailand.

Please feel free to use the comments below if you have any questions about Prevention Services. If you’re also a youth worker in Prevention Services, we’d love to hear about your experiences in the comments too.

If you’re a youth worker and would like to take part in this series, please contact us.

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Different Types Of Youth Work Around The World

January 9, 2013 By Stephen Pepper 2 Comments

Different types of youth work around the worldAs we mentioned yesterday, there are many different types of youth work out there. There are even many differences between the same type of youth work based on different factors.

For example, the work that you’d do with homeless young people in New York will be quite different to the work you’d do with homeless young people in a slum in Kenya. Similarly, social work with youth in the UK will likely have a different approach to social work with youth in New Zealand due to different challenges, cultures, issues, etc.

New Series

To give you (and us personally!) a better idea of the different types of youth work around the world, we’re starting a new series that will be published every Wednesday. Each week, we’ll be interviewing a different youth worker who will share about their specific type of youth work:

  • What’s unique about their niche
  • Challenges they face
  • What’s great about their type of youth work
  • Any training or qualifications you need
  • And much more!

We’re hoping this series will prove to be a useful resource to youth workers like yourself around the world, giving you a better idea of the diversity in global youth work and being an opportunity to share best practice with each other.

Get Involved

We’d therefore love to hear from you! We want to interview as many youth workers as we can in order to cover the different types of youth work. If you’d like to be part of this project, please get in touch and let us know what type of youth work you do. If it’s not an area we already have covered, we’ll send you the questions as we’d appreciate your expertise.

List Of Different Types Of Youth Work

Here’s a list of just some of the youth work niches that are out there – we’ll be adding links to each of the interviews as we go along. If you can think of any other types of youth work, let us know in the comments below and we’ll update the list with those too:

  1. Shae Pepper – Prevention Training Specialist in the US
  2. Gemma Dunning – LGBT Youth Worker in the UK
  3. Benjamin Kerns – Senior High Youth Pastor in the US
  4. Johnah Josiah – Youth Worker in Kenya
  5. Josh Shipp – Youth Speaker in the US & Worldwide
  6. Aaron Garth – Local Government Youth Worker in Australia
  7. Brent Lacy – Rural Youth Pastor in the US
  8. Terry Linhart – Youth Ministry Professor in the US
  9. Sam Ross – Youth Justice Worker in the UK
  10. Stephen Pearson – Deputy Youth Services Manager in the UK
  11. Shae Pepper – Girl Scout Troop Leader in the US
  12. Adam Griffith – Youth Worker in Thailand
  13. Rachel Blom – Youth Worker in Germany
  14. Laura Statesir – LGBT Youth Worker in the US
  15. Mildred Talabi – Careers Advice Youth Worker in the UK
  16. Neels Redelinghuys – Youth Pastor in South Africa
  17. Shae Pepper – Schools Project Coordinator in the UK
  18. Development education
  19. Homeless – crisis (thanks to Aaron for these homeless sub-categories)
  20. Homeless – long-term
  21. Homeless – health
  22. Homeless – government housing
  23. Housing
  24. Middle school youth ministry
  25. Jr high youth ministry
  26. Schools work
  27. Emergency foster parenting
  28. Foster parenting
  29. Youth clubs
  30. Urban
  31. Scouting
  32. Prince’s Trust (UK)
  33. Outreach / detached
  34. Apprenticeships
  35. After school
  36. Skills training
  37. Mission trips
  38. Prison
  39. Catholic
  40. Gang mediation
  41. Restorative justice
  42. Duke of Edinburgh Award (UK)
  43. Affluent youth
  44. Low-income youth
  45. Sexual health
  46. Sex and relationships
  47. Mentoring
  48. Tutoring
  49. Dance
  50. Drama
  51. Music
  52. Film
  53. Visual arts
  54. Youth journalism
  55. Politics
  56. Youth participation
  57. Youth council
  58. Social work
  59. Mental health
  60. Youth with disabilities
  61. Muslim
  62. Hindu
  63. Sikh
  64. Substance abuse
  65. Youth retreat / residential
  66. Slum
  67. Farming / agriculture
  68. Unemployed young people
  69. Career advice
  70. Activity centers
  71. Wilderness
  72. Group homes
  73. Faith-based scouting (AWANA)
  74. Sports
  75. YMCA
  76. Recreation centers
  77. Volunteering
  78. Boys & Girls Clubs of America
  79. Domestic violence
  80. Sexual abuse
  81. Physical abuse

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What’s The Difference Between Youth Ministry And Youth Work?

January 8, 2013 By Stephen Pepper Leave a Comment

Difference between youth work and youth ministryQ: Some people refer to youth ministry and others refer to youth work. What’s the difference between the two?

A: Youth ministry and youth work are a little like carrots and vegetables. All carrots are vegetables, but not all vegetables are carrots. In the same way, all youth ministry is youth work, but not all youth work is youth ministry.

Youth ministry is done by Christian churches and tends to have a twofold focus:

  1. Helping young people come to faith in Jesus
  2. Helping young Christians grow in their faith

Youth ministry therefore focuses on the spiritual (although we think it’s important to be both holy and holistic). This type of youth work is often headed up by youth pastors and supported by volunteers, but youth ministries are also often led solely by dedicated volunteers – particularly in smaller churches.

Youth work as a whole though covers a much more broad spectrum. Like we mentioned, it includes youth ministry but also includes all kinds of other non-faith based work with young people.

There are too many types of youth work to cover in just one post, so from tomorrow we’ll be starting a new series that’ll be published on Wednesdays. This series will explore all the different types of youth work and will feature interviews with youth workers from around the world who are all experts in their niche. We therefore hope that this will be a great resource for youth workers to discover all the different types of youth work that are out there.

If you’re working with young people in any kind of niche area of youth work, we’d love to do a Q&A with you that we can publish as part of this series. If you’re interested in getting involved with this, please get in touch and let us know what type of youth work you do.

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